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	<title>Comments on: BBC hoodwinks bloggers with promises of links</title>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Coles</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-12194</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Coles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. I&#039;ve found some URLs! However, as you&#039;ll see in the new blog post comments (http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-dofollow-bloggers/#comments), there&#039;s a weird redirect going on that&#039;s effectively the same as a nofollow. Anyway, apparently it&#039;s being looked into at your end ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. I've found some URLs! However, as you'll see in the new blog post comments (<a href="http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-dofollow-bloggers/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-dofollow-bloggers/#comments</a>), there's a weird redirect going on that's effectively the same as a nofollow. Anyway, apparently it's being looked into at your end ...</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Barron</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-12186</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Barron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s getting there.  We are waiting for the team who run bbc.co.uk/programmes/ to make some changes that will put it live.  Hopefully it will be in the next two weeks but it&#039;s part of a release with a number of other dependencies so I cannot say for definite.  They&#039;ll be a post on the BBC Internet Blog when it launches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's getting there.  We are waiting for the team who run bbc.co.uk/programmes/ to make some changes that will put it live.  Hopefully it will be in the next two weeks but it's part of a release with a number of other dependencies so I cannot say for definite.  They'll be a post on the BBC Internet Blog when it launches.</p>
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		<title>By: BBC follows through on promise of dofollowed links to bloggers &#187; malcolm coles</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-12184</link>
		<dc:creator>BBC follows through on promise of dofollowed links to bloggers &#187; malcolm coles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] December, I pointed out that: Shownar is a BBC site that tracks online buzz about BBC shows. Despite being paid for by the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] December, I pointed out that: Shownar is a BBC site that tracks online buzz about BBC shows. Despite being paid for by the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Coles</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-12176</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Coles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew - I see you&#039;ve followed through on this promise with the new Buzz thingamybob. Am blogging about this for the morning - is Buzz live though? I can see the &quot;about Buzz&quot; pages but can&#039;t find an example ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew - I see you've followed through on this promise with the new Buzz thingamybob. Am blogging about this for the morning - is Buzz live though? I can see the "about Buzz" pages but can't find an example ...</p>
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		<title>By: JTownend</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-6435</link>
		<dc:creator>JTownend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah sorry - must have had an old window open and didn&#039;t notice the comments. Ignore my last comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah sorry - must have had an old window open and didn't notice the comments. Ignore my last comment!</p>
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		<title>By: JTownend</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-6434</link>
		<dc:creator>JTownend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that does seem to rather undermine the spirit of the thing... have you tried getting an explanation yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that does seem to rather undermine the spirit of the thing... have you tried getting an explanation yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Coles</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-6432</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Coles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Andrew, thanks for the explanation. I guess the difference between you and Twitter, say, is that it doesn&#039;t do site-level moderation.
Anyway, good to know you&#039;re looking to remove the nofollow in future. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Andrew, thanks for the explanation. I guess the difference between you and Twitter, say, is that it doesn't do site-level moderation.<br />
Anyway, good to know you're looking to remove the nofollow in future. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Barron</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-6430</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Barron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 10:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Auntie here

Our decision to add nofollow to these links was to avoid spam and people gaming our site.  For the Shownar prototype we are running on a very low moderation staffing level as Shownar&#039;s primary aim was to experiment with different ideas and see how feeds and data performed in the real world.  We could not afford to deal with spammers who make use of our largely automated link back to gain extra &#039;google juice&#039; and exposure from our site.

Generally the BBC isn’t a fan of nofollow but we followed the lead of sites that can be gamed by spammers (eg Twitter and Flickr) who do use it.

Shownar will be retired in a few weeks.  The good news is the version we are creating for bbc.co.uk is going to be backed by the moderation support that means we should be able to remove nofollows for those non-commerical blog posts that are significantly about a BBC programme.  

Andrew Barron
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Auntie here</p>
<p>Our decision to add nofollow to these links was to avoid spam and people gaming our site.  For the Shownar prototype we are running on a very low moderation staffing level as Shownar's primary aim was to experiment with different ideas and see how feeds and data performed in the real world.  We could not afford to deal with spammers who make use of our largely automated link back to gain extra 'google juice' and exposure from our site.</p>
<p>Generally the BBC isn’t a fan of nofollow but we followed the lead of sites that can be gamed by spammers (eg Twitter and Flickr) who do use it.</p>
<p>Shownar will be retired in a few weeks.  The good news is the version we are creating for bbc.co.uk is going to be backed by the moderation support that means we should be able to remove nofollows for those non-commerical blog posts that are significantly about a BBC programme.  </p>
<p>Andrew Barron<br />
Product Manager, Shownar</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm Coles</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-6426</link>
		<dc:creator>Malcolm Coles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hoping maybe she&#039;s swing by and explain herself ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hoping maybe she's swing by and explain herself ...</p>
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		<title>By: MekQuarrie</title>
		<link>http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/bbc-hoodwinks-bloggers-over-links/#comment-6425</link>
		<dc:creator>MekQuarrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool post. Did you ask Auntie why she does this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool post. Did you ask Auntie why she does this?</p>
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